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Post by billlau on Mar 4, 2013 21:23:13 GMT -5
What is a good all around 22 ammo that I can use in my davis derringer. I am looking for more or less just plinking but I want it to be affordable. That is if I can find any 22 ammo. Haha. BillLau
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Post by erich on Mar 4, 2013 21:45:52 GMT -5
The weird thing about .22 LR ammo is that each gun is a law unto itself with it. Seriously, you can have two identical guns come off the line right next to each other, and one likes a given .22 load and the other hates it. Chronography of rounds works this way as well - while some give better performance in shorter barrels in general, actual performance is going to vary from gun to gun. You need to chrono it out of your gun to see what you get.
So. You have to try a mess of them in your gun to find out what it likes. Any advice we give you here is just whistling in the wind, insofar as it might not be true of your gun.
That said, the more expensive the ammo, the better the odds of perfect function across a variety of guns. In other words, cheap bulk pack stuff is more likely to give you ignition problems than more expensive fare.
My favorite bulk ammo is Federal's AutoMatch 40-grain RNL loading. I find it works well in most (but not all) of my .22s.
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Post by billlau on Mar 6, 2013 11:06:56 GMT -5
thanks, I may see about ordering some different brands online to try out. Billlau
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Post by bandit on Mar 6, 2013 11:33:13 GMT -5
Good luck finding it! Erich is right about various guns liking various brands/types/loads. However, this is more prominent with semi-autos I would think, with a derringer or revolver you don't have cycling issues, therefore it may be more foregiving.
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Post by erich on Mar 6, 2013 13:01:34 GMT -5
I'm not just talking about cycling, but also about accuracy and velocity. What I wrote about is true of any two otherwise identical guns, but I think that the reduced scale of the .22 rimfires magnify differences between guns' performances.
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Post by bandit on Mar 6, 2013 13:25:25 GMT -5
Isn't that true with any caliber/gun combo? Various barrel lengths, loads, etc will give various results. Not arguing with you as much as trying to give billlau some various insight. But I would imagine you are right with the smaller guns, not as much barrel length to build velocity/accuracy, so the differences in ammo will be much more noticable.
Of course that's the thing with .22, if you can find it right now, it is inexpensive enough to try out a lot of different brands/loads/etc to find what gives the best performance in YOUR gun.
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Post by bandit on Mar 6, 2013 13:26:50 GMT -5
And FWIW, I have never had much luck with the thunderbolt ammo by Remington, some people have, but out of two rifles and one semi-auto pistol, not much luck with it. CCI seems to give me the best results.
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Post by erich on Mar 6, 2013 15:55:48 GMT -5
Well, as I said, so, yes, of course it is.  But, as I also said, the effect is more noticeable in .22 rimfires. You might be misunderstanding my point. I'm talking about not two guns that are different. Of course a 4" Ruger Mk II will give different results than a 6" Ruger Mk II, but I'm talking about two identical Ruger Mk IIs with 4" barrels that come off the assembly line right next to each other, with serial numbers that are consecutive. I've seen more than once that one of these will love Brand A .22 and the other will not do well with it. As I said, and you'll see this effect with any two guns (so, you can't say for sure that "My S&W Model 60-15 loves 135-gr +P Gold Dots so yours will, too!"), but never so markedly as with .22s. Regarding Thunderbolt - there've been periods where the stuff seemed like garbage in every gun I used it in, and periods (we're in one now) where it seems to do okay in some of my guns. I suspect quality control is a little iffy on that bulk stuff.  |
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But, as I also said, the effect is more noticeable in .22 rimfires. 